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Mercenary for Hyre · Apr 12, 2006, 07:24 AM // 07:24

We were debating if Order of the Vampire actually adds more damage or if its just life stealing off what you are already dealing....Does someone know? The way its worded I was thinking it doesnt, you just gain life off of what you are already dealing.

Song Rui · Apr 12, 2006, 07:25 AM // 07:25

Extra damage which adds to your health.

Mercenary for Hyre · Apr 12, 2006, 08:09 AM // 08:09

From the way its worded it doesnt seem right, If thats the case shouldnt it be +17 damage and you steal 17 life? All extra damage mods are worded like this.
Whats the difference in this skill?

LordMahal · Apr 12, 2006, 09:08 AM // 09:08

Vamp does the same as vamp anything else. If your average strike is 25(example only) and you have whatever in vamp say 5 life stealing... you will strike for 25, and then see that you steal an additional 5 health. Its not going to be +dmg +stealing life, thats too much. From what I understand, even if you do 0 damage, you will still steal X amount life.

Mercenary for Hyre · Apr 12, 2006, 09:33 AM // 09:33

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Originally Posted by LordMahal

Vamp does the same as vamp anything else. If your average strike is 25(example only) and you have whatever in vamp say 5 life stealing... you will strike for 25, and then see that you steal an additional 5 health. Its not going to be +dmg +stealing life, thats too much. From what I understand, even if you do 0 damage, you will still steal X amount life.

That makes more sense, thanks for the info.

Cherno · Apr 12, 2006, 12:40 PM // 12:40

It isn't damage, it is actually better than damage as it won't take armor into account. You just steal 17 life (which most will equate to dmg for the enemy regardless of whether you need the life or not). And then you still to the normal dmg from your weapon. Basically consider it like having the best part of nearly 4 vampiric mods on your weapon without the drawbacks.

nomed · Apr 12, 2006, 12:56 PM // 12:56

normal damage + 19 life stealing damage

Former Ruling · Apr 12, 2006, 01:01 PM // 13:01

Life stealing ISNT damage, thats why it isnt worded like you like.

"Life Stealing" means it just TAKES 17 life and gives it to you.

So "steals 17 life" or w/e means it takes 17 of their life, and gives it to you.

shardfenix · Apr 12, 2006, 07:06 PM // 19:06

Order of the Vampire is not damage. It is direct life stealing, meaning prot spirit/shielding hands/rof will not stop it.

Apr 12, 2006, 07:24 AM // 07:24	#1
Mercenary for Hyre Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Water Tower with a rifle Guild: No Guild Profession: W/R	Orders debate We were debating if Order of the Vampire actually adds more damage or if its just life stealing off what you are already dealing....Does someone know? The way its worded I was thinking it doesnt, you just gain life off of what you are already dealing.

Apr 12, 2006, 07:25 AM // 07:25	#2
Song Rui Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Guild: We are all pretty [ugly] Profession: W/	Extra damage which adds to your health.

Apr 12, 2006, 08:09 AM // 08:09	#3
Mercenary for Hyre Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Water Tower with a rifle Guild: No Guild Profession: W/R	From the way its worded it doesnt seem right, If thats the case shouldnt it be +17 damage and you steal 17 life? All extra damage mods are worded like this. Whats the difference in this skill?

Apr 12, 2006, 09:08 AM // 09:08	#4
LordMahal Krytan Explorer Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Germany Profession: R/Mo	Vamp does the same as vamp anything else. If your average strike is 25(example only) and you have whatever in vamp say 5 life stealing... you will strike for 25, and then see that you steal an additional 5 health. Its not going to be +dmg +stealing life, thats too much. From what I understand, even if you do 0 damage, you will still steal X amount life.

Apr 12, 2006, 12:40 PM // 12:40	#6
Cherno Forge Runner Join Date: Jan 2006 Guild: Stars of Destiny Profession: E/	It isn't damage, it is actually better than damage as it won't take armor into account. You just steal 17 life (which most will equate to dmg for the enemy regardless of whether you need the life or not). And then you still to the normal dmg from your weapon. Basically consider it like having the best part of nearly 4 vampiric mods on your weapon without the drawbacks.

Apr 12, 2006, 12:56 PM // 12:56	#7
nomed Banned Join Date: Feb 2006	normal damage + 19 life stealing damage

Apr 12, 2006, 01:01 PM // 13:01	#8
Former Ruling Grotto Attendant Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Cedartown, Georgia Profession: R/	Life stealing ISNT damage, thats why it isnt worded like you like. "Life Stealing" means it just TAKES 17 life and gives it to you. So "steals 17 life" or w/e means it takes 17 of their life, and gives it to you.

Apr 12, 2006, 07:06 PM // 19:06	#9
shardfenix Banned Join Date: Dec 2005 Guild: Il Power Overwhelming Il [HaX]	Order of the Vampire is not damage. It is direct life stealing, meaning prot spirit/shielding hands/rof will not stop it.